Quantifying Star Wars: Part 3 (Episodes VI & III)

Welcome back, everyone.  Today we'll be looking at the comparison of Star Wars episodes VI and III - Return of the Jedi and Revenge of the Sith.

Before we begin I want to show you something really quickly.  It will only take a second.  Really.  A second.  No time at all.  There are four cuts in the following scene that we're going to look at sequentially in the pleasant spirit of free use. 

Okay, here's A:

And now B: 

Think of it like a visit to the eye doctor.  Is A better?  Or B?  A?  Or B?

How about C:

And now D:

Is C better?  Or D?  C?  Or D?  C, or D? 

The first time I saw Revenge of the Sith (episode III) in theaters I remember having that weird feeling like I just missed something when I saw this scene.  The best way I think I can get the feeling across is to point to that scene in The Matrix where Neo thinks he sees the same cat walk by twice.  It's something that you catch out of the corner of your eye, something that makes you wonder if you actually saw something or if your brain is just playing tricks on you.

I think I saw episode III three or four times in theaters (every time a different group of friends or family would suggest it), but I always forgot to pay more attention to this scene.  It would just happen again and it would be over, and I'd be left with the same feeling that I'd missed something.  I remember having the feeling that it had something to do with Obi-Wan's eyes, but didn't have the fortune of a rewind button.  I was pretty sure that his eyes changed color during the scene, but it's so fleeting that I had trouble nailing it down.

Well, (un)fortunately, now I do have a rewind button.  I've owned the DVD of episode III for years now, but I think this might have been the first time I've watched it.  This scene happened, I skipped back 20 seconds, watched it again, skipped back 20 seconds, watched it again, skipped back 20 seconds, watched it again, then picked my jaw off the ground.  I caught it on the first rewind this time, but went back over and over to confirm what I thought I was seeing.  I was honestly stupefied and embarrassed that this was in the film, let alone the DVD.

Like I said, there are four main cuts there.  Shot A is the first piece, then it cuts to Anakin, then it cuts back to shot B, then cuts back to Anakin, cuts back to C, cuts back to Anakin, and then closes with the quick cut back to D.  The middle shots (B and C) of Obi-Wan in this scene are clearly on a different day (or month!) than the start and close (A and D).

This was clearly just a callback shot when they either had something wrong with this piece or decided to add or change some dialogue or something.  I'd understand if you needed an extra shot of Obi-Wan in a scene where he's in the background or something, but this is one of the ubiquitous A-B dialogue (we'll get to it...) scenes that permeates episode III.  All that takes place are Obi-Wan and Anakin standing in front of a green screen delivering lines.  From that standpoint it is not difficult to reshoot the entire scene, or even just Obi-Wan's half, especially if you already have him in there to reshoot 8 seconds anyway.  It's not like you'd even need Anakin back on set, all you need is the person that is already there reshooting, and Anakin's back of the head double.

This whole debacle elapses in less than 30 seconds, and they are the only people there.  Give me Ewan McGregor, a guy that has a back of the head that kind of looks like Hayden Christensen, and a green bedsheet and I can reshoot this in my garage.  

A director who cares at all about continuity would take note of the fact that actors don't always look the same every day.  If you wanted to splice in a shot (why would you do this?) instead of reshooting Obi-Wan's whole half of it, you'd take note of how the actor was wearing his costume, his makeup, his facial hair, what his hair looked like, how much gel he put in his hair right before the shot, WHAT COLOR HIS EYES WERE THAT DAY, you know, the little things.

Now, I've looked this up on the internet since I figured this out, and some people have tried to just say that the shadows shifted or something and it's no big deal.  In case the A-B/C-D didn't work for you above, here's a side by side of A and B:

And of C and D:

I wish I was kidding.  I wish that I had played around with this in photoshop or something.  Realistically I could probably make the scene look better with an hour or so in photoshop.

Take note of the time difference, if you haven't already.  The first two cuts are separated by less than 6 seconds, the second two cuts by less than 2 seconds.  What is the mentality that lets that slide?  I've never been on a film set (or in an editing room), but I'd imagine that it must be someone's job to make sure that something you just spliced in matches the things around it.  It must be someone's job to do what I just did - a few minutes of copy pasting and cropping stuff in MS paint.

Putting together a movie is probably pretty hectic, so I would be willing to cut them some slack on the theatrical release.  Maybe you catch this in the 11th hour and it's just too late to fix it.  Like I said, this all happens pretty quick, and in theaters I was just left a little confused.  But you should catch it.  Someone should catch it.  By 3am on the morning it was released I could have told you that you should take a look at that scene and figure out it something was wrong.  How many people saw it at midnight?  I'm decent at this - at best - but I'm hardly one in a million (or multi-million, considering the $16 million dollars made on midnight screenings alone; or many-million, considering the $158 million dollars this movie made in the first 4 days). 

If you catch it too late you make a little note, hang it on your mirror or something, and make sure that your world-renowned editing and 'special edition' guys spend 20 minutes some morning doing some crazy Lucas magic to this scene.  Or better yet, pay Ewan McGregor some crazy amount of money to regrow the beard and reshoot 30 seconds when he gets some spare time.  Or - if you really want to Lucas out on this thing - save the dialogue but have the shot be of them walking at a distance and just CG both of them in there without needing actors at all.  The bottom line is that while some of these options are less than great there were options on the table before you had to push a DVD out the door.    

So why start with this?  Why lead off with this instead of burying it in the bottom of the post or even a secondary post?

Because that's the same attitude that produced a movie with such a dramatic failure present in it.


Okay, let's get back on track.  Eyes forward, class - whatever color they might happen to be.
  
I went into this week with an interesting pair of films before me.  Going into last week I felt it was downright unfair to cast Clones up against Empire, as Empire - even as a standalone movie - is simply a fantastic piece of work.  People seem to agree on that ( http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/29/star-wars-the-empire-strikes-back-added-to-national-film-registry/ ).

Even the first week I wasn't expecting The Phantom Menace (often lambasted as the 'worst' of the prequels) to hold up to a landmark of film like the original Star Wars.

Return of the Jedi isn't quite as strong as the others in the set, though.  There's the Ewoks taking on an entire imperial regiment, there's all the stuff on Tatooine, etc.  It's still a good movie, mind you, but going into this week I considered it the weakest of the original trilogy.

Then there's Revenge of the Sith.  I remember watching this movie and thinking: "well, at least it wasn't as bad as I and II".  Even the ever critical character of Mr. Plinkett over on RedLetterMedia (again, NSFW: http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/star-wars-episode-iii-revenge-of-the-sith/ ) seems to acquiesce on the fact that one of the prequels might not have been altogether awful.  Coming from Plinkett that's pretty enormous praise.

Given that this was set up to be the best of the prequels vs the worst of the original I thought I might get to see an interesting fight, and maybe even have episode III shine in a few places.

Oh.  Oh, how wrong I was.

Let's get the things you're expecting out of the way, shall we?

So far we've been using - as our base for graphs - the scale determined by The Phantom Menace.  Each of the movies to this point has mostly fit on that scaling, if perhaps a touch short of ideal (New Hope deaths were a touch off the graph).  Return of the Jedi continues this tradition, and looks pretty similar to the trend we've seen in A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back.    

No surprises there, really.  There's a decent number of characters, and a long stretch there in the middle where no one dies.  A fair number of the main characters are killed, though.  People aren't really mentioned or used as back story because things are being wrapped up.

Total deaths clock in at 11, five shy of A New Hope but five greater than The Empire Strikes Back.  This fits, to some degree, especially given the near immortal fortitude of the Ewoks and the difficulty of confirming their fatalities (I've always said that I think one Ewok might have been killed - that's all I counted here).

Let's take a look at Revenge of the Sith.

Yes, the graph did decide to rescale itself.  It's because by the time Revenge of the Sith has wrapped up 19 actual named, credited, and important characters have been killed.  That's almost five pod races.  Here's the graph on The Phantom Menace Scale:

Revenge of the Sith is a film about killing a bunch of people, so I guess this number (19) shouldn't be that shocking.  Coming off the nearly pacifistic episode II (4 deaths) and the pod race fatality driven episode I (7 deaths, 4 from pod racing), it just feels like a lot.  When you come out swinging with intent to almost double the deaths of the prior two movies, well, the deaths start to feel pointless and boring.  Beyond that, many of the characters (e.g. the majority of jedi) haven't been given any character development opportunity whatsoever, so it's exceptionally difficult to care about them when they die.

In fact, the only Jedi that receive even minimal character development (Yoda, Obi-Wan, Anakin) end up living.  And DO NOT come back at me with the claim that Mace Windu received minute one of character development.  Kit Fisto ( http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kit_Fisto ) received effectively equivalent character development as Mace Windu.

Tell me what motivates Mace Windu.  Tell me what he does in his spare time.  Tell me where he lives or what planet he's from.  Tell me who trained him, or who he trained.  Tell me how he came to be on the council.  Tell me how he feels about long walks on the beach.

And don't you even think about telling me that I need to go to secondary source to find out this stuff.  Star Wars fans should be the first to recognize the hierarchy of canonical sources (crap, I thought I was going to be able to write all these without saying 'canonical'), and if you can't make a movie work without giving people a reading list then you need to Peter Jackson that stuff and make it into 5 movies or something. 

Anyway, who dies in episode III?  Well, anyone that has made it to this point but has to have a reason not to be present in episode IV.  All of the people who were shoved into the first few movies for no reason are now killed for no reason.  Nute Gunray is still alive?  Better kill him off.  Finally.

Let's briefly take a look at how the addition of these two movies fills out the overall graph we've been working on.

Pretty interesting - Revenge of the Sith looks more like the original trilogy than either of the other two prequels, at least up until the last 10 or so minutes.  That could just be due to all the people that are killed, though, so let's just look at the number of characters that have been introduced.

Wow, despite a strong last minute push by Revenge of the Sith, The Phantom Menace still ekes out that win.  Who would have imagined that Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith would end up tying?  Here's the numeric breakdown:

1st place - The Phantom Menace, 63 characters
2nd place - Attack of the Clones & Revenge of the Sith (tie), 58 characters
4th place - Return of the Jedi, 37 characters
5th place - A New Hope, 28 characters
6th place - The Empire Strikes back, 27 characters

Now that's a list I'd be happy to be at the bottom of.

I'm not going to dwell on that today, but I think that if I come back to this in a few weeks to put together an overall comparison between trilogies that graph and ranking would be the place that I'd start. 

I think that I learned a fairly large amount from coding the scenes in Clones and Empire, so I decided to give it another go here in Sith and Jedi.  This produced a table of the same sort that I put together last week.  Spend some time with it.  Get to know each other.

Jedi Scene	Mood		Sith Scene	Mood
The approach	suspense		War!	tension
Progress review	tension		Let's kill some droids	action
The droids	tension		The elevator	action
Jabba the Hutt	tension		R2 kills some droids	action
The ironworks	worry		That scene from Return of the Jedi	action
Dancing, interrupted	happiness		Talk it out	plotting
The bounty hunter	tension		Gravity	action
Han Solo	suspense		Grevious	confusion
Reunited	happiness		The bridge	action
Return of the Jedi	tension		Going down	action
The rancor	persistence		Homecoming	explanation
Together again	worry		Padme	tension
Sailing	planning		Grevious' summer home	foreboding
The sarlac	suspense		The balcony	hope
The importance of good planning	action		Visions	foreboding
Luke's departure	planning		The little wooden thing	fear
The emperor's arrival	planning		Yoda	foreboding
There is another	sadness		The report	tension
Ben	worry		Anakin and Palpatine	plotting
The rebel fleet	hope		The Council	tension
The hanger bay	worry		Spyin'	tension
The millenium falcon	worry		Flyin'	confusion
The fleet	foreboding		Hanging out	reason
Fly casual	suspense		The space opera	plotting
The pacific northwest (of Endor)	suspense		Benefits of telecommuting	planning
The pursuit	suspense		The Wookies	action
Separated	worry		Apologies	understanding
Fuzzball	curiousity		Commander Cody	playfulness
Predictions	foreboding		Vision quest	whining
A tasty treat that's good to eat	suspense		Chasing Grevious	foreboding
I am a golden god	reverence		Lizard ride	action
The feast	suspense		Jedi robots	action
Story time	relaxation		The car chase	action
Revelations	worry		Battle plans	confusion
Vader's arrival	conflict		Emo baiting	whining
The shield generator	planning		Cover your heart, Indy!	action
The jump	setup		Chatting with Mace	tension
The bunker	success		That scene from Fifel goes West	rumination
Welcome, young Skywalker	despair		This party's over	action
Reinforcements	despair		Sorry I'm late	action
It's a trap!	confusion		On to business	planning
Front row seats	anger		Yes sir!	foreboding
The capture	despair		Order up!	action
The calvary	chaos		Well that's just unnecessary	action
Defend the cruisers	action		Under control	tension
The imperial fleet	foreboding		The value of swimming lessons	relief
Fully operational	panic		Insert Wookie joke here	hope
Open the doors	suspense		iShip	planning
The star destroyers	worry		Obi-Wan's escape	hope
Do it!	anger		Anakin's return	worry
Lease an imperial walker today!	hope		Rebel One	worry
Under fire	suspense		Mordor	foreboding
Meet your destiny	tension		Approaching Coruscant	planning
The best laid plans...	success		Under new management	betrayal
Your feelings betray you	absolute despair		The temple	action
The shields	jubilation		The senate	confusion
So be it	absolute despair		The aftermath	sadness
Here goes nothing	action		That scene from the Godfather	haste
You were right	bittersweet		Hack all the mainframes	despair
Quaid, start the reactor	success		A reasonable discussion	despair
Victory	happiness		That scene from Lord of the Rings	sadness
Funeral for a Jedi	closure		A stowaway	worry
An Ewok celebration	celebration		A series of reasoned pleas	everything
			A diplomatic exchange	action
			An office visit	action
			Fightin' round the world	action
			Obligatory Yoda battle	action
			Senate in recess	action
			Gymnastics lessons finally pay off	action
			Yoda's escape	despair
			That one level of Mario 64	action
			Highest ground is best ground	action
			On bad tactical decisions	mixed
			Leaving Mordor	sadness
			Hang in there!	persistence
			Obi-Wan's return	hope
			A rainy day on Coruscant	foreboding
			Need a 'will to live' transplant	confusion
			Luke and Leia	mixed
			Nooooooooooooooooooooo...	anger
			Blue glowy ghosts	hope
			The droids	retcon
			Back to Naboo	sadness
			A great new civil works project	nostalgia
			Visit Alderaan	hapiness
			The farmstead	hope

Here's something you might notice.  Revenge of the Sith is 8 minutes longer than Return of the Jedi.  Revenge of the Sith has 86 scenes, while Return of the Jedi has 64.  On average, scenes in Return of the Jedi are just less than 2 minutes each (actually 1.969 minutes).  In Revenge of the Sith?  A bit better than a minute and a half (actually 1.558 minutes).

In the first set of movies, I made the argument that not enough time was available to be allocated to each character.  In Revenge of the Sith the problem seems that not enough time is available to be allocated to each scene.  Things jump around everywhere.  It is a tour de force of hyperactive excess.  It feels like a child rushing to finish something that they should have started weeks earlier.

Let's look for some bright spots.  There's certainly a lot less confusion present in episode III than there was in II.  That's good!  Obi-Wan isn't just wandering around dumbfounded the entire movie.  That's progress.  What does he spend his time doing instead?

Well...acting completely out of character.  Oh, so out of character.  So very very out of character.

In episodes I and II Obi-Wan is constantly preaching patience and planning and blah blah blah.  He's seen twice now what happens when you rush into things alone (Qui-Gon against Darth Maul, Anakin against Dooku).  So what does he do when he's finally on the bridge with Grevious and able to maybe accomplish something, like maybe negotiations? Smirks and then wrecks up the place. 

So what does he do when he finally tracks down Grevious again?  Watch his movements for a bit?  Come up with a plan?  Surprise him when he's alone or unsuspecting?  Use his noted tracking skills to find where the other separatists went?  Call in some support to surround him?

No, he just jumps down from the ceiling to taunt and provoke Grievous while he's surrounded by enemy troops.  Seems reasonable.  Then they get in a car/lizard chase.  Sounds like fun.  What has planning ever done for him, anyway?  Hmph. Adventure. Heh. Excitement. Heh. A Jedi craves not these things. You are reckless.

Oh wait, wrong movie.

Maybe there's a doppelganger Obi-Wan in this movie, and that's why sometimes his eyes are one color and sometimes they're a different color throughout the movie.  [I swear that he looks different in some of the Grievous scenes as well, but I just don't have the heart to go back and check.]  It was like giving the character a goatee to point out they are from the evil parallel universe.

Do you see what I'm reduced to here in trying to make sense of this movie?

Last week I broke things down in terms of mood to a number of different categories.  Since that was mostly to focus on the element of confusion, I'm not sure what it's going to tell us this week.  The mood that seems to dominate Revenge of the Sith is action - or rather the lack of mood.

Three scenes in Return of the Jedi seem to be action for action's sake, and two involve some of the space battle over Endor.  The third is the sail barge battle on Tatooine. I'd give you three and a half if you pushed me a bit on the Ewoks, but to be fair they do try to evoke some emotion, if not a bit less effectively.  In Revenge of the Sith?

 25.  Twenty-five scenes are predominately there for the action.   Here are twenty-five 1's for scale:

1111111111 1111111111 11111

Here are three:

111

There's difference in the total number of scenes, so let's deal with percents, to be totally fair.  That's 4.69% of Jedi, and 29.07% of Sith.  We are talking just a bit shy of a clean order of magnitude.

Remember, I went into this week feeling like I might finally be able to come up with something good about the prequels.  I really tried hard to find something good about this movie - something that would stand up to Return of the Jedi.


Jedi has some good emotional scenes.  The things that stand out to me are the entire interplay between Luke, Vader, and the Emperor at the end of the movie, the interplay between Luke and Yoda, and the interplay between Han and Leia (and Luke for a bit).  That's...well, a good chunk of the movie.

I was really hoping to care for characters in Revenge of the Sith.  There are really only two parts that stood out.  The first is after Obi-Wan defeats Anakin (spoiler alert?)  If you can get past Anakin continuing to whine while he tries to climb up the slope, Obi-Wan actually gives a pretty good performance.  He sells you on the fact that doing this really hurt him, and that he's sad.  You get his despair, and his mourning.  It's a good performance by Obi-Wan, and it stands as a fitting capstone to this trilogy.   

The only other part that evoked any emotion were the final few scenes where they are making blatant connections to the original trilogy.  Amidala saying "Luke" and "Leia" stirs something up inside you.  The shot of Owen and Beru holding Luke on the farmstead while watching the sunset with Obi-Wan looking on sadly is powerful imagery.

But, it's not.  Not if you haven't already watched the original trilogy.  If you're watching the movies in numerical order for some reason (why would you ever do this?), that's completely lost on you and you now have a movie completely devoid of emotion except for a speech by Obi-Wan on the slopes of Mount Doom.        
I should come up with some graphs that keep me alerted to how many words I've gone since I've included a graph.  Okay, I get it.  Here's a graph of how the moods actually break down when coded to simple categories.

Interestingly, Return of the Jedi and Revenge of the Sith tie in number of positive scenes and 'other' scenes.  Remember, though, that Sith has the benefit of 22 extra scenes.  Where do those 22 scenes end up?  Well, we've actually already covered that - they go into action.

Oddly, I didn't realize until making this graph that I didn't code any suspense in Revenge of the Sith.  My first reaction was 'that can't be right', but after thinking about it for a minute I think it actually is, and it's actually a pretty big weakness.

In Jedi, events are built up to. There's dead screen time where you wait for an event to happen.  You are given time to wonder what's about to happen, and how things are going to turn out, and that's what suspense is.

In Sith, it seems like Lucas has taken Yoda's advice a little too literally.  Things either happen or they don't.  There is no suspense.  Time is not wasted building up to things, everything is clear cut.  With everything that needs to happen there's simply no time to let things build up.  There was suspense in Attack of the Clones, right?  Hold on a second.

Yeah, I went back to check, and there was at least a little.  I didn't code it at that point, but it makes me wonder how much suspense there was in Phantom Menace.  There was some, right?

Anyway.

There's something that I started thinking about that's a little bit beyond simple action.  It's the permeation and buildup of scenes that are shot for effects - scenes that are less about characters and more about models and/or computer generated graphics.  The Michael Bay effect, if you will.

It's easy enough to code scenes that are predominately just shovels for effects.  These are the scenes that are either all effects, or effects to the near exclusion of characters.  Imagine two people fighting with swords which aren't there, on a narrow platform that isn't there, over lava that isn't there, on a planet which isn't there.  Oh, and the people aren't there either.  All of it is just a guy at a computer monitor.  We can only hope that the guy at the monitor has a drink in his hand.

The Star Wars movies have always had a strong effects backbone.  A New Hope without the death star run or scrambles with TIE fighters is a weaker picture.  Each of the movies - Return of the Jedi included - should be somewhat guilty of this.  Let's compare:

Moving on.  

Remember I mentioned the A-B dialogue problem?  Well, even when there are actual characters on screen in Revenge of the Sith, they are often standing, sitting, slowly walking, walking then stopping, stopped then walking, sitting then standing, standing then sitting, or some other bizarre combination of all of the above, in pairs, in front of green screens.  You put a camera over one person's shoulder pointing at the other actor and the other camera over the second person's shoulder looking at the first.  [Note: I'm not even treating green screen backgrounds in the above look at CG driven scenes]

You have them talk, fill in a background, and it's ready to go.  It gets hard if they're walking too much (probably?), which might explain why they always stop walking at some point.  They might start walking again, but that's a good tip that the scene (and conversation) is about over.  How does that look?

Looks pretty similar to the CG graph above. 

I wonder what would happen if we looked at both of them together?

Hmmm, there's probably a lesson there.  Disney, take a look at that graph a few more times.

Hang in there, folks, we're almost through this.  I can see the end ahead of us.

One of the things that I find myself recognizing in movies these days is the points when I consciously or unconsciously allow for suspension of disbelief.  A movie (or any entertainment) that has fewer points where suspension of disbelief has to occur flows better.  The smaller the suspension that must be made, the better.  

Return of the Jedi and Revenge of the Sith are similar in the sense that both movies are the culmination of plans laid out by the emperor.

In Return of the Jedi the emperor's plans have been progressing since some point in Empire, when he realizes that Vader's son lived.  His plans in A New Hope were foiled by the rebels with the destruction of the death star.

In Revenge of the Sith the emperor's plans have been progressing from the opening crawl of The Phantom Menace.  My initial inclination was that the death of Darth Maul was a wrench in his plans, but it doesn't seem to have been.  Even that setback seems to have been a part of the plan to draw Anakin to him.  Darth Maul wasn't his apprentice, he was a pawn.

In Return of the Jedi there are a few places where the emperor's plan could fall apart.  The plan is pretty tight, though, as the rebels have fallen into a trap that the emperor set.  The rebels could have not fallen into the trap, but it wouldn't have foiled anything - the emperor would still have the upper hand.  There are really only two places where the emperor's plan could have failed.

The first is that 'an entire legion of the empire's best troops' could have been bested by a rag tag group of native teddy bears.  The second is that Vader could be turned by Luke against the emperor.  Both are pretty small risks for the emperor - both of those things are pretty rare events.  That's why they're powerful when they occur.  The emperor's plans have also been foiled once in A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back, so he's not shown to be all powerful and infallible.  

In Revenge of the Sith, well...I put together a list.

Plan falls apart	Minute
Anakin is killed by other ships	6
Anakin is killed by Doku	12
Anakin doesn't kill Doku	14
Doku uses last words wisely	14
The ship explodes under fire or while on fire	16
Grevious kills Anakin	18
Obi-Wan actually negotiates for once	19
The ship crashes or isn't pointed toward runway	21
Anakin consults a doctor about childbirth	31
Yoda uncovers child or relationship	33
Council doesn't appoint Anakin at all	39
Anakin actualy spies on Palpatine	40
Anakin trusts the council	45
Anakin questions Palpatine's knowledge of Sith	46
Amidala questions Anakin's methods	53
Separatists refuse relocation to Mustafar	57
Anakin kills Palpatine	64
Anakin goes to the senate instead of to Mace	67
Mace goes to the senate instead of confrontation	67
Mace uses patience and planning before attack	67
Jedi actually know how to fight	71
Mace agrees with Anakin to arrest Palpatine	74
Anakin agrees with Mace to kill Palpatine	74
Anakin stops Palpatine from killing Mace	75
Anakin arrests Palpatine after the fact	75
Amidala questions Anakin just a bit more	89
Obi-Wan kills Anakin/Anakin dies of wounds	120
Nute Gunray defects, shares knowledge of Sith	EVER

Here's what it looks like if we graph it, as if we really needed to see it:

In Revenge of the Sith the emperor not only has a ridiculously complex and convoluted plan, but nothing about it ever goes wrong.  If you look at the events of The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones, every single event is planned by the emperor to produce Vader.  Things happen and Palpatine is always there, smirking and happy with himself.  In the prequel trilogy the emperor is all powerful and infallible.

Even Superman needs kryptonite.  Even Doctor Manhattan needs tachyons.  Whoops, now I want to sit down and reread Watchmen.  The emperor has none of these things.

He is, by all extent, more powerful than Superman or Doctor Manhattan. 

Read that one more time.  Really think about that.

This, to a large degree, is one of the things that accounts for the lack of suspense in Revenge of the Sith (and perhaps the prequels overall).  Call him an antagonist or a protagonist - he's certainly one or the other.  An infallible being with seemingly limitless power makes for a boring character.  You never expect him to fail because he never does.  If he wants something, it happens.  If he plans something, the plan succeeds.    

Show him being even a little sad that Darth Maul has been killed.  Show him changing his plans on the fly.  Show him once not having that smug sense of satisfaction and the audience might start to imagine for even a moment that his plans might fail, even if they don't. 

How easy is that?  Pretty easy.

There was one last thing that I wanted to look at during these two movies.  It has to do with music.

The original trilogy plays out like Peter and the Wolf.  Even if you've only seen the original trilogy a few times you can probably hum a few bars of a few different pieces of the original Star Wars score.  If you know one piece you almost certainly know Vader's theme: the Imperial March.  You'd probably also recognize Luke's theme - it's a big part of what's thought of as the main Star Wars theme.

Leia has a theme that's kind of close to Luke's, but softer.  The final big one is that of the emperor.  The emperor's theme is recognizable as the only piece (unless I'm mistaken) in the original trilogy with a chorus - think of the music with deep low chanting.

These themes build and change across the three original films.  The emperor's theme isn't even present until Return of the Jedi (because the emperor isn't really present until Return of the Jedi), though it's still clearly identifiable due to how unique it is.  It's also clear due to the fact of how directly tied to the emperor it is.  If the emperor is on screen you're going to be hearing at least a bit of his theme.

Even with all the other coding I was doing I had a pretty easy time pulling out a bunch of these themes during Return of the Jedi.  If you listen to them closely you can tell what's going on without even listening to the dialogue.

If you've gotten to this point I'm really hoping you've seen the movies, so I feel that saying spoiler alert is kind of unnecessary.  But, just once more, here come some pretty major spoilers.  MAJOR SPOILERS.  If you've just been reading so far thinking that well maybe you'll never watch Star Wars just stop now and watch the original trilogy.  Here comes full spoilers of the end of the main plot line.  You have been warned.

The best use of this music that has been building for three films is the last 15 minutes or so with Luke, Vader, and the emperor.  You have a clear picture of each theme at this point, and as things start shifting one way or another each theme stands out over the others.

This culminates as Luke is hiding from Vader in the emperor's throne room.  There's bits and pieces of everyone's themes up to this point, but while Luke is hiding he's trying to feel for the good in Vader, but Vader is doing most of the talking.  Vader is doing the emperor's bidding, and you hear a slow build of the emperor's theme.

Vader is also searching Luke's feelings, and Luke is trying to hide the fact that Leia is his sister.  He fails, and Vader senses that there is another Skywalker.  Vader becomes overjoyed, and then Luke gives in to everything that the emperor has wanted - he's filled with anger and hate and directs it all at Vader.  He yells and attacks Vader with all his hate and fury, finally willing to do what he has so far refused - to kill Vader.

What follows is then the strongest and most powerful rendition of the emperors theme in the movie as Luke goes nuts on Vader.  The music comes to a crescendo as Luke knocks down Vader, continues to strike with all his strength, and cuts off his hand - leaving him helpless.  Luke has him defeated at this point, and the regular emperor's theme returns as the emperor walks down the steps, chuckling.

Luke looks at what he's done, sees Vader's mechanical hand not unlike his own, and regains his composure.  The emperor's theme fades as Luke calms himself and refuses to kill Vader.  Luke's theme emerges over the emperor's, as Luke tells the emperor that he has failed, that he will never turn to the dark side.  That he is a Jedi, like his father before him. 

The emperor is now furious, and starts to use force lightning Luke.  Vader pulls himself up and stands next to the emperor as the emperor continues to attack Luke, who cries out for help.  The emperor's theme again emerges as Luke finds himself defeated.  As this continues, the camera moves to Vader and the emperor's theme begins to mix with Luke's theme, revealing Vader's internal struggle between the two most significant people in his life.

"Now, young Skywalker.  You will die."

Luke's theme bursts through as Vader picks up the emperor and throws him over the railing to his death.

All the themes fade as Vader collapses to the ground, exhausted. 

Vader is mortally wounded in the attack, and Luke tries to help him to his shuttle.  The death star is in chaos.  Vader stops Luke along the way and asks Luke to remove his mask, knowing he is about to die.  Luke helps Vader remove his mask and you hear a very light violin rendition of the imperial march as he's taking it off.  As he speaks his last words the music that plays is a continuation of this on all the lightest instruments that the orchestra could find, including on - what is that, a french horn? - that is otherwise mainly (perhaps exclusively) used for Luke's theme.

Vader draws his last breath and the well-known main notes of Vader's theme are played out slowly, one by one, with a harp.  The music that has been used across these films to underscore the main antagonist is now being used to show that there was in fact still good in him.  It's strikingly beautiful, and transcends dialogue.

It's also pretty easy to pick up on.  I've been watching these films with a pretty critical eye, but was watching Jedi with my wife - she picked up on and pointed out this use of the harp-played Vader's theme before I was able to say anything about it.  Things in the original trilogy are kept simple to keep them powerful.  Parsimony is the bedfellow of fine focus.  John Williams has received a lot of accolade for his original trilogy scores, and it's well deserved.  

John Williams also had the (mis)fortune of working on the prequel trilogy.  What was he able to deliver there?

I own copies of all the Star Wars soundtracks, which does mean that yes at one point I went out and even bought copies of the prequel soundtracks (along with also buying DVDs of the prequels at some point).  I always thought that there were two things weird about these soundtracks.  The first was that they were only one CD, while the original trilogy soundtracks were two CDs.  The second was that the songs weren't even ordered on the CD based on the movie - they were just sort of randomized.

I began to notice one of the potential reasons for this when I was trying to code some of the music in Revenge of the Sith.  It's actually something I wasn't expecting, so I didn't figure out to code it in time, but a lot of scenes just don't have any score at all.

We can actually figure out some of the discrepancy from looking at the run time of the soundtrack against the run time of the movie:

The astute (or still awake) reader will notice that the score of Return of the Jedi is actually longer than the movie.  This is not due to the fact that the Return of the Jedi soundtrack has extras and alternative versions on it, as I made sure not to include those.  It's actually because the run time of the movie that I'm using is computed up to but not including the credits - all the calculations I've done are based on the length of things without credits, as those are not really a scene.  It's a minor thing, and if I went back I could fix this graph and make each of the blue bars just a little longer.

It's rather insignificant to the point of the graph, though.  In Jedi the music follows the story almost exactly.  It's a big part of the film and helps to support a lot of what is going on.  I could probably pull up a random track and tell you what's going on in the movie due to how well the music and plot match to each other.

In Revenge of the Sith the music is...well, I don't even know.  It's almost an afterthought.  The reason that the CD isn't in movie order because if it was you might try to do something silly, like sync it up to the movie with the movie muted.  You'd feel kind of silly when your CD ended with an hour remaining in the movie.

There's also the question of themes.  We've discussed how there are clearly identifiable themes in the original trilogy.  In the prequel trilogy the only thing that keeps coming back over and over is 'Duel of the Fates' - something that I regarded on first (and repeat) viewing of Phantom Menace as Darth Maul's theme.  Remember Darth Maul?  He's still relevant, right?

I tried to listen for unique themes that I could recognize in each of the movies.  We'll break it down again by scene:

Keep in mind (in many of these graphs, I might add) that Return of the Jedi has 22 fewer scenes, which is why it tends to end earlier on the graph.

So Revenge of the Sith has a little bit of music to set the tone.  Those last three spikes, though, are a scene with the imperial march when Vader and the emperor are overseeing the construction of the death start, and then two scenes with Luke's theme.

There's a few other sprinklings of Luke's theme, a bit of Yoda's theme, some Duel of the Fates, and even some things that I'm going to call Amidala's and Anakin's themes (I think it's a stretch, though).  It's just so...half-assed. 

The bottom line is that Revenge of the Sith was so bad that it made John Williams not care.

This brings us to an important question: just how bad is episode III?  Was my initial inclination correct that it's the strongest of the prequels?

I'm shocked by it, but when I finished watching it I kind of longed to just go back and watch episode I.  That's right.  The Phantom Menace.  I think The Phantom Menace - with all its many problems - is a better movie than Revenge of the Sith.  I can't help but shake my head when I try to say that sentence out loud, but I think I have to stick with it.

Even the ridiculous love story of Attack of the Clones seems palatable compared to Revenge of the Sith.  At least it's a story.

I'm going to have to diverge from common opinion here and say that Revenge of the Sith is the worst of the Star Wars prequels, and by fiat, the worstest Star Wars movie eveeeeeeeer.

It's partly a problem of doing prequels (so stop doing prequels, everyone!).  You can't let the characters drive the story because you know they have to get to a certain place.  You can let them drive the story for a while, but then you need to reel them in and have them act completely out of the character that you've just built to get them back on track.

By numbering movies before you've written all of them you also run the risk of running out of numbers.  Episode III suffers from this as well.  There are things in this movie that should have been cut so that other things could be given enough time to be understandable.  Yoda going to the Wookies has little impact on the story other than to make people say "wow, I know what Wookies are!" and to give Yoda a explanation of not getting wiped out by order 66 or being in the temple when Anakin arrived.  That explanation could have taken a lot less time, or be wrapped up in something else.

I'm just going to toss my first thought out here - maybe Obi-Wan could have acted with patience when he found Grievous, and called in and waited for reinforcements.  The council, recognizing Grievous as an important threat, could have sent Yoda (and maybe another throwaway Jedi or two for Grievous to kill) to help Obi-Wan deal with that threat adequately.  It's super important that this goes well - remember that the council was more than willing to recall Obi-Wan and Anakin halfway across the galaxy for the opening scene.

Maybe without the Wookie scenes there would be time to show some more of the hints of friendship between Obi-Wan and Commander Cody (the only named clone trooper), and then show Cody's struggle with executing order 66 or staying true to his friend.  That struggle of Cody's could be used as the element that allows Obi-Wan and Yoda to escape.  You'd also have an opportunity to feel for one of the clone troopers, as well as learning more about Obi-Wan.  Wow, there's some character development you get out of it, too.

Special bonus?  Two (or three, or four!) on one light saber battle.  Something for the kids, you know?  A fight with a four-armed guy makes a lot more sense when you have two or three guys working on it, anyway.

Honestly, that didn't take much thought.  I didn't pause while writing this to come up with that, nor had I thought about it before.  It literally took almost no time at all.  Like I said earlier, I'm nothing special - get together a bunch of smart people in a room, give them the freedom to express their opinions and be critical, give them some time to brainstorm on this stuff, and you'll get plenty of ideas that are drastically better than this one in no time at all.

Episode I and II had flaws.  Those flaws were well known before episode III was produced.  Given those flaws, episode III should have received even minimal critical review at the script stage.  It doesn't feel like it did in the slightest.  What could I say that I haven't already? 

If you go to the zoo and watch the monkeys long enough, you'll witness monkeys eating their own feces.  It happens.  Simple biology would point to the fact that this fecal matter will pass through that monkey again, becoming what could be perhaps construed as some sort of concentrated double feces.  That is the best that I can do to describe Episode III: Revenge of the Sith.

So, there you go.

You've earned some bonus questions by this point, and soon you'll have them.  First I wanted to just say thanks for reading.  If I had any idea how long this would have become as I was sitting down to write that first post I probably wouldn't have done it.  It's been a lot of fun, and I think it's changed the way I look at these movies.  I hope it's done the same for you.

Anyway, questions!



- How long has Palpatine been sitting up in this ship captured? I always thought his capture had happened just before the movie starts, and Dooku was in the act of fleeing with his prize (instead of just hanging out in orbit). Later Anakin says that he and Obi-Wan were specifically called back from the outer rim to rescue Palpatine, which means that at least some time has passed. Are they the only Jedi that know how to fly a ship, by the way? Why were they so important to be recalled from their other duties?

- Why doesn’t the trade federation invest in a ton of those tiny droids that latch on and completely destroy your ship? Those would easily take down star destroyers - they might have been able to take down the death star. It’s not designed to deal with single-pilot fighters, how in the world would it ever cope with basketball sized droids?

- How is it that R2 is almost as dexterous as a Jedi in Return of the Sith, but in the original trilogy he can’t do much of anything? Did he take a penalty to DEX for acting out of alignment or something?

- Are the Jedi specifically supposed to be captured? Because there are several places where droids have the drop on them and could easily kill them if they simply shot their blasters.

- Obi-Wan makes exceptionally short work of two of those walking droids that in the prior movie seemed exceptionally difficult for Jedi to deal with, even in one-on-one situations. Has he been training specifically against them? Also, why did they replace the droid destroyers? They can’t be cheaper to make (as fully humanoid robots would be), and they’re barely better than the regular droids.

- Why does Obi-Wan not lose his legs when they’re crushed by a metal platform against a metal floor? I remember wondering this in theaters, and maybe it’s just a bad angle or bad CG.

- If all it took to free Palpatine was to wave a hand anywhere remotely near the locks why didn’t they do that when they first entered the room? Sure, Palpatine isn’t a Jedi, but he would at least not be a (literal) sitting duck if Dooku actually wanted him dead. I mean, just show Anakin fiddling with something on the side of the chair for 2 seconds.

- Seriously, where did the clones get those ships? Why is this never addressed? Why are the clones important at all, compared to these ships?

- When the ship starts to plummet toward the planet gravity goes all screwy. This is a ship that spends most of its time in space, right? So, I guess the artificial gravity was knocked out, sure. This ship starts in medium to high orbit around Coruscant. Coruscant is not shown to have any reasonably different gravity than Earth. The International Space Station operates in low-Earth orbit. Pull up a video of the space station crew floating around in what is effectively zero g. Gravity is an inverse square laaaaaaaaaw.

- For that matter, why would a ship that high in orbit immediately plummet toward the ground with the same force as if it had been a stone pushed off the edge of a table?

- Is Grevious in on the conspiracy too? Why not just let all three of them die trapped in the ray shield? Also, add ray shield to the list of super overpowered devices that could single-handely win the war if used wisely instead of just once. Let’s check in on that list: droid destroyers, Gungan energy balls, flying droid basketballs, ray shields, patience.

- In another situation where the Jedi seem to be full instigators of this war, Grevious brings Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Palpatine to the bridge for ‘negotiations’. If he wanted them dead, he could have easily killed them in the ray shield. Obi-Wan responds to Grevious acting fairly peacefully by breaking out of his bonds and attempting to kill everyone in the room. Then, once people (sorry, droids) are simply running away he and Anakin wrap things up by brutally killing them as they flee.

- Why is it that every other droid stops working when you decapitate it, but Grevious’ guards don’t need their head at all to function? Why even put a head on them? Is it just like a place where you can store stuff? Like your keys?

- What does Grevious do to the ship to make it start crashing? It seems perfectly stable before he jumps out the window, then after he does that there are just random explosions and the ship starts to break in half. I guess that was a load-bearing window?

- When did Obi-Wan get a sense of humor? In the last movie he was super job-focused and stern and in this movie he’s constantly cracking jokes.

- Why would Corusant have any land dedicated to what is effectively an airport? Since there are no ships in this universe that rely on air moving over wings to produce lift, there are no ships that require more than their footprint to take off or land. There is not a single ship present in any movie that needs any significant ground to take off. Now, Coruscant would likely have plenty of spaceports - oh, wait, we’ve already seen a bunch in prior movies. They’re just places you park your ship next to, or fields where you land it gently in an area exactly its size. Star destroyers land at the end of Attack of the Clones, and they just go gently up and down - no runway needed. Runways are for craft that either need a distance to get up to speed to generate lift, or for those that have no means of landing other than...well, controlled freefall. There would be no reason for a runway to exist on Coruscant, and on a planet that is utilizing 100% of space (the whole planet is one big city!) there’d be no reason to keep any around even if they were a throwback to a forgotten age. Let’s consider - Anakin doesn’t seem to have very much control of the ship at all. At best he might be able to make exceptionally minor pitch yaw and roll changes, but certainly none to speed, as the ship is basically in semi-controlled freefall. That means there are either a lot of runways (for no reason), or he just happened to be aimed at the one remaining one that’s on the Coruscant Registrar of Historic Places or something. Whoops, sorry about destroying that historic air control tower.

- The ship is plummeting toward the ground at or near terminal velocity. Other ships come along side and start shooting something at the fires to put them out. The streams of liquid don’t seem at all impacted by the fact that well...wind. I’ve heard people come up with the notion that this is super special heavy firefighting liquid that would like fall faster or be resistant to air pressure or something, because this is a situation that happens all the time, right? I guess that would explain why Coruscant had so many runways. If you were spraying this stuff not in full freefall you’d need that much extra pressure to ever send it any distance, which would simply be ineffectual. That said, even if this was molten lead it is still subject to some pretty simple physical forces that are simply not on display.

- Anakin says they (him and Amidala) don’t need Obi-Wan’s help, and implies that they can handle things on their own. So, then next thing he does is go to Yoda. Why? He’s shown to be much closer to Obi-Wan.

- Amidala suggests that Anakin talks to Palpatine to try to get him to go back to negotiations to try to bring a peaceful end to the war. Anakin gets super angry and tells her that ‘she sounds like a separatist’ and that she should ‘bring that up in the senate where it belongs’. Why are the Jedi so intent on waging a full out war with no end when in the prior movies they are set up as ‘guardians of the peace’ and say that they ‘cannot fight a war for you’? Guess what, Jedi? You’re not only fighting a war, you’re leading a war.  Also, why does Amidala continue to take all this abuse?  Did she develop all these self-esteem issues while she was child ruler of an entire planet?

- In episode II they go all out to catch Dooku because they say that if they can catch him they will instantly win the war. At the start of episode III they kill Dooku, but fail to catch Grevious. Shortly thereafter, they say ‘if we catch Grevious it will end this war’. How many times will it take them to catch on that there might be a second in command?

- Obi-Wan’s eye color and hair. OBI-WAN’S EYE COLOR AND HAIR.

- Grevious has a reach that exceeds the length of a lightsaber, and he has with him four lightsabers. All he has to do is sweep two lightsabers each in different, paired directions, at a distance apart just longer than a normal lightsaber. Unblockable. Or swing two in that fashion and stab with the third. Or just clap two of them together from opposite sides at the same time. Or, you know, just let Obi-Wan win. Grevious has to be in on this plan, too, right?

- Since when do blasters set things on fire? Like, upon hitting something errupt into flame? Is Grevious made of combustible material?

- Why does Anakin change his mind so incredibly fast after Mace is killed? He’s immediately regretful that he helped Palpatine, and originally came there to arrest him. The only thing that Palpatine is holding over him is the power to save people from dying in childbirth, and then Palpatine is like “oh yeah, I totally don’t know to do that, but I’ll definitely look into it”. Why doesn’t Anakin go get some other Jedi or just try to kill Palpatine right there? If the idea is that he’s giving in to his anger he should be pretty angry at Palpatine at this point.

- To go back to my questions about episode II, Obi-Wan in episode III says that the Chancellor will not be able to control the thousands of planets in the republic, while Dooku claimed that at least 10 thousand would defect from the republic to the separatists’ cause. Order of magnitude discrepancies here.

- Before Nute Gunray is killed he says that ‘the war is over’ and that ‘Darth Sideous promised us peace’. This further gives evidence that if the Jedi had tried to negotiate at any point they might have found themselves in an interesting discussion.

- Who is the video editor in the Jedi archive? Or is Obi-Wan just really really good at search queries? The notion of “let’s look at the security footage” leads to pulling up the 5 seconds of important footage from two different time points and areas - why would the emperor even have come to the Jedi temple anyway?

- Anakin says that the Jedi turned against him? Which ones? Mace? By that point he had apologized to Obi-Wan for his earlier actions, and was in the process of redeeming himself in Mace’s eyes. He had no reason to believe that any Jedi had turned against him at that point, unless you count fighting back turning against him when he came to kill them.

- Why is governor Tarkin on the bridge with the Emperor and Vader? 20 years pass before he is relevant. As a governor he can’t be that important, other than what he will eventually become.



And a few questions about Return of the Jedi:

- The opening crawl says that the new death star is even more powerful? How?

- When Luke comes to Jabba he walks in - peacefully - and simply turns away the guards with the Jedi mind trick.  In the prequels those guards would have been cut to CGI pieces. Why would Luke not just slaughter them?  They don't have names and they're not people, so it's totally okay to just kill them, right?  I’m so confused after watching the prequels.  So confused.

- When the sail barge is hit is lists to the side, but why would it stay up at all?

- Why would they bring the droids to Endor at all?  Is hilly forest one of R2's favored terrains? 

- Can anyone just jam anyone’s comlinks on speeder bikes? Why would it be the center switch? Wouldn’t that be something important?

- Why have we as a culture allowed Lucas to go in and make horrible changes to these movies?

On Turkeys and Twinkies

If you came here today looking for the last of the Star Wars posts, my apologies.  As I suspected - and mentioned last week - I simply haven't had time to put together the Revenge of the Sith/Return of the Jedi post given the holiday week.

This week's post is going to be a bit shorter - at least compared to the last few - and I figured that I would focus on two of things that are likely to come up in a lot of conversations this week.  Those two things are Twinkies and turkey.

If you haven't heard that Twinkies might be going away you might want to stop reading for a moment to spend some time on Google to catch up.  It got me to thinking about how many Twinkies might be eaten in an average year.  Given the upcoming Thanksgiving holiday, that then got me thinking about how much turkey Americans eat on Thanksgiving.

This post, then, makes for a bit of trivia to talk about around the table while waiting for all that turkey.  That bit of trivia will come as the answer to the question:

Are there more calories in the world's annual consumption of Twinkies, or in Americans' single-day Thanksgiving consumption of turkey?

To answer this question it requires pulling some data down from the internet, some data that has the potential to be fairly unreliable.  To that end I have tried to verify numbers that I've found with as many sources as possible, or come to a reasonable number that seems to be the average of those that I've found.

The first bit of information that we need is the number of Twinkies consumed each year.  It seems that the internet is in fairly good agreement that the number of Twinkies sold each year is somewhere 500 million.  This doesn't mean that 500 million Twinkies are consumed - just sold - but this is a good number to start with.

Twinkies are also pretty easy to pin down calorically - there are 150 in each individual Twinkie.

That means that the calories consumed via Twinkies over the course of a year comes to right around 75 billion calories.

75,000,000,000 calories.

Now that you know that, feel free to speculate on the over/under for turkey.

Like I said, there's a little less consensus on the exact amount of turkey eaten on a given Thanksgiving, but it looks like there's some agreement that the number of pounds eaten last year was somewhere around 650 million.

Calories are trickier, as different parts of a turkey are drastically different in terms of fat content and thus caloric density.  The most calorically dense part of turkey would be dark meat, skin on, which clocks in at right around 1,000 calories per pound.  If everyone was eating only dark meat skin on turkey, this would be be an even 650 billion calories.

650,000,000,000 calories is almost an order of magnitude higher than that calories in Twinkies, but it's also the case that this is the absolute worst case scenario.  There's also a lot of meat on a turkey that's a lot less calorically dense.

The meat with the least calories is skinless white meat, which is only around 600 calories a pound.  If everyone was eating skinless white meat on Thanksgiving, that would be 390 billion calories.

350,000,000,000 calories is quite a bit less than the 650 billion from all dark meat, but still five times as many calories as a year's worth of Twinkies.

If we assume that a bird is an even mix of meat that averages somewhere around 800 calories we'd come up with 520,000,000,000 calories, probably the safest estimate we can make without digging quite a bit deeper for better numbers.

There's also the fair point that I'm having trouble distinguishing whether or not the numbers I'm finding are taking into account the meat that is eaten or the weight of the bird.  If things were a little closer I'd worry about this, but even if we say that half of every bird is bone and other inedible bits we're still well above the annual number for Twinkies.  

So, Americans on Thanksgiving will consume more calories in turkey alone than the entire world will consume in Twinkies over the course of a year.  Keep in mind that this is only turkey - when's the last time you had a Thanksgiving dinner that had nothing aside from turkey?  I'm betting the calories from everything else on the plate at least double this amount, if not more.

Anyway, feel free to use this knowledge to create some conversation at the dinner table, or have people take sides on it, issue some bets, take a house rake, and earn yourself some easy money.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

Quantifying Star Wars Part 2.5: Empires and Clones, and Love

Welcome back to the second part of the second part of the Star Wars comparisons.  Wednesday I talked about quite a few things that differ between The Empire Strikes Back and Attack of the Clones, but really only touched the tip of the iceberg.  Because of that, I wanted to put together a special extra post to cover one more thing that I wanted to talk about after watching both movies.

That one thing is love, and how love is displayed in each of the movies.  Awwwww.

To the nature of the subject it's inherently harder to quantify, though I will stick to my guns on the claim that if you can't measure it, you don't understand it.   

The comparison of the love stories between Empire and Clones is actually pretty interesting due to the fact that in the big picture they're somewhat similar.  Two characters who start off as friends are placed in danger, grow together over their experiences in the movie, and fall in love.  Sounds simple enough, right?

The love story in Clones is between Anakin and Amidala, and in Empire it's between Han and Leia.  George Lucas probably watched Empire a few times, right?  I bet that he can come up with something that works - even if not quite as effectively - in the same way as in Empire, right?  Let's take a look. 

In Empire, only 6 minutes into the action, Han tells the general that he needs to leave to pay off Jabba the Hutt.  The general says he's a good pilot and it's a shame to see him leave, but he understands.  He says goodbye to Leia, who responds somewhat unemotionally.  Han becomes frustrated, and storms off.

Leia pursues him into the hallway and tries to convince him to stay.  She says that 'we need you', and Han comes back with 'we need you?  well what about you?'  Han has already expressed that he's interested in Leia (back in A New Hope when he asks Luke if he thinks a guy like him could work with a girl like her), and you're clearly seeing his frustration that he thinks Leia is holding something back.

He says things like 'afraid I was going to leave without a goodbye kiss?'  Her response is 'I'd just as soon kiss a Wookie!', to which he exclaims 'I can arrange that!  He could use a good kiss', and stomps off.

He's going to leave - he goes back to the hanger to take off, and turns off his communicator.  C3P0 has to come and deliver a message by hand that Leia is trying to contact him (about Luke being missing).  Han continues to visibly express frustration with the situation (such as responding to the claim that his tauntaun will freeze with the line "then I'll see you in hell!), and when he's forced to stay (by Luke's disappearance, Chewie working on the ship, and the imperial attack) you start to cheer for the romance because even Han had basically given up on it.

Leia is fighting for him to stay, and at that point either doesn't feel anything more for him or simply won't reveal it.  She has a good excuse to want him to stay as a good pilot, so she doesn't actually have to reveal anything more than that.

Later in the film, after Leia has started to see a different side of Han, they are captured and Han is set to be frozen in carbonite.  It's at that point that she is brought to the same hallway discussion - Han is being removed from her and this time she realizes that it's not just the pilot she was trying to keep, it was Han.  She tells Han that she loves him right before she is about to lose him and he replies with the downright phenomenal line "I know."

The line isn't good because it's cold or emotionless - I'd argue it actually carries more emotion than most lines in any of the prequels - it's good because Han is having the same conversation with her that he had in the hallway earlier in the film.  At that point on Hoth Han was trying to get Leia to admit she had feelings for him, something that he already suspected.  In this sense, he did already know that she loved him.  He simply had to wait the rest of the movie for her to understand it the same way he had.

Han could have just as well said something like "it's about time" - the fact is that he's already displayed in his actions throughout the rest of the movie that he loves her too.  He doesn't need to express that to her in words, because by her admission he now sees that she is on the same page that he was on back on Hoth.  Making it as simple as words cheapens it, and moreover it underestimates the audience's capability to draw those connections themselves.

Now, let's consider the 'very similar' situation in Attack of the Clones.

Anakin shows up on scene with Amidala and she is pleased to see him.  He makes a number of awkward and creepy comments, and she laughs them off.  It's his free pass - he's an awkward kid having an awkward moment and stumbling over his words when nervous.

He tells the audience (via a conversation with Jar Jar) not that he loves Amidala, but that he is obsessed with her in an unhealthy way.  He thinks about her every day since they were separated back when he was nine, etc.  Jar Jar (!) and Obi-Wan act as voices of reason and say that he shouldn't worry, that Amidala was happy to see him and basically imply that they're still friends.

Anakin responds to this advice by continuing to be creepy and obsessive, to the point that Amidala comes out several times with stern statements like "stop looking at me like that...It makes me feel uncomfortable".  Amidala expresses no feelings for Anakin, nor does she have any reason to even keep him around.  Unlike Leia, who needs Han for his piloting skills (and his ship), Anakin is a completely interchangeable piece in this puzzle.

Even if it is the case that a Jedi is needed for protection Amidala could easily go to the council and request someone different, or even ask for Obi-Wan to work alone this one time.  They are not stuck in space, they are in the capital city of the capital planet.  They are literally a short trip away from the densest population of Jedi in the universe.

Let me walk that one by you again.

Anakin could be made to be special or useful for being a Jedi if they happened to be somewhere that Jedi were in short supply - say, Naboo or Tatooine.  The point at which Anakin has already totally creeped out Amidala several times over (not to mention angered and disobeyed Obi-Wan) is when they are still on Coruscant.  Being a Jedi on Coruscant is like being an 'actor' or 'writer' in Hollywood.  You're not that unique - have too many problems and even the vague threat of replacement should come up.  Especially if you're someone who was only admitted to the order with strong hesitance for fear of the problems you might cause.

By all rights Amidala should request a different Jedi, as she has to continue to have "no means no" discussions with Anakin over and over.  She should absolutely protest the idea of being shipped off to a planet alone with him given all the conversations they've already had and the concern she has over and over expressed.  Can I go back and use a stronger word than absolutely there?  Can I put it in double italics?  If a Jedi knight is necessary for the trip (why is that again?) let us not forget that Anakin is still in training, let alone showing huge problems with self-control.    

In Empire, Leia begins to see a different side of Han.  In Clones, nothing changes.  Amidala gives the same "no means no" speech over and over with growing looks of concern.  You don't start to feel for Anakin, you start to feel for her.  The only thing that actually changes is that the voices of reason (Obi-Wan and - I cannot believe I'm typing this, Jar Jar Binks) are removed from the picture and Anakin is free to be as creepy and obsessive as possible.  Anakin and Amidala eventually kiss, and she immediately pushes away and says "no means no" again, expressing great regret that it had happened.  What does Anakin do?  He now begins to obsess over the kiss itself, saying things like:

"From the moment I met you, all those years ago, a day hasn't gone by when I haven't thought of you. And now that I'm with you again, I'm in agony. The closer I get to you, the worse it gets. The thought of not being with you makes my stomach turn over - my mouth goes dry. I feel dizzy. I can't breathe. I'm haunted by the kiss you should never have given me. My heart is beating, hoping that kiss will not become a scar. You are in my very soul, tormenting me. What can I do? I will do anything you ask... "  

This is supposed to be romantic, kids.  This is how you treat a lady.

Is there any surprise that the generation that this was aimed at grew up to embrace the Twilight books?

To be fair, there's some points in Empire where Han has lines that - delivered incorrectly - might be construed to be as creepy as some of Anakin's.  When in the asteroid field the ship shakes and Han catches Leia.  Once it stops moving Leia peacefully says "let go of me."  Han, in frustration, says "don't get exited" to which Leia responds "captain, being held by you isn't quite enough to get me excited."  Leia is (successfully) expressing her frustration with the situation of being pursued by the Empire and directing it at Han.  Han, also frustrated, throws back the line "sorry sweetheart, we don't have time for anything else", while leaving.

On paper, it's kind of a creepy line, but in delivery it comes off not as a threat, but as something said to intentionally anger Leia.  Han is trolling, basically. He also uses the same coping mechanism he used earlier - leaving.  Anakin's delivery, on the other hand, always ends with him giving a creepy stalker smirk or smile as Amidala leaves.  I swear, just toss it on, mute it, and watch Anakin.  He's not trying to anger Amidala, he's trying to lure her into his windowless van.   

In Empire, Han and Leia kiss (fairly consensually!) at the end of a somewhat tense discussion, but are interrupted by C3P0.  Leia makes a quick exit and Han yells at him, but otherwise doesn't dwell on it.  He doesn't go back to his bunk and cry while writing in his diary, he moves on and realizes that if Leia had wanted to kiss him it will happen again.  She does.

There's a good contrast between the capture of Han and Leia and Leia's admission of love to the capture of Amidala and Anakin and Amidala's admission of love.  Leia's makes sense, and it's been building all movie.  She's not about to die, she's about to lose (for the second or third time in the movie) someone she has come to realize she cares about.  Amidala's doesn't make sense given her actions the rest of the movie, and you get the feeling that it's kind of situational (she is about to die).  She's reached the bottom and just wants to go out with a bang.  It's like kissing the passenger next to you on a plane plummeting toward the ground.  A spur of the moment kiss in the face of death does not a love story make.

Surprise!  They live, and what next?  Well, immediate secret marriage, of course.  Twilight novels, eat your heart out.  

So how to measure it?  By this point I'm sure you're itching for some graphs.

This train of thought got me thinking about two things.  The first is the situations into which the characters are placed.  Anakin and Amidala spend a good chunk of the middle of Attack of the Clones alone together.  It's as if Lucas realized that all it takes for two people to fall in love is a little bit of alone time on a pretty planet.  Did Han and Leia need alone time to get to know each other?  Let's see.

This graph shows the distribution of scenes in which the focus of the scene is devoted to the two characters on screen alone.  This allows for scenes like the one where C3P0 stumbles in, as the main focus of the scene is the part where Han and Leia are alone, not where C3P0 enters.  This also means that I don't have to go back and code down to the second the time that these characters are alone - by that we'll have to consider the above a reasonable approximation.

I feel like the subtleties of this graph should be explained in detail to every teenage boy.  Your failures in love might not be attributable to the idea that you simply can't find a way to create alone time, it might actually be that you're trying so hard to create a one on one situation that you're failing to capitalize on time where you're not alone.

Do keep in mind, the blank spots on this graph are not just the places where these characters are on screen and not alone, but also the time devoted to all the other characters in the movie.

If you've ever thought that calculus isn't applicable in real life, we can take some integrals of the above graph by movie to figure out how much time in each movie is devoted to scenes in which these characters are alone.  In Empire, it's a clean 15 minutes, or right there at an even 1/8th of the running time of the movie.

In Attack of the Clones it's a touch longer - 32 minutes is devoted to Anakin and Amidala sitting in fields looking at waterfalls, etc.  For a full half hour you are sitting and watching Anakin and Amidala roll around in fields, or gaze out over lakes, or have formal dinner dates.  Clones is a longer movie, but not that much longer.  These scenes account for 24% - just shy of 1/4 of the run time of the movie.

So how is this extra time spent?  Well, I've talked about Anakin's creepy stares and windowless van, so let's take a look at that.

I've attempted to come up with some level of how creepy some of the dialogue between these two characters in the movie is, on a three point scale.  A rating of 1 is something that might sound worse than it is out of context, or has a reasonable explanation.  A rating of 2 is something that's a bit worse, or something that has a less tangible situational explanation.  A rating of 3 are the things that should start to frighten the other person.      

There has to be something that Empire is going to have more bars of, right?  How about this?

Clones and Empire are both movies about persistence and pursuit.  In Empire, the crew of the Millenium Falcon persistently try to escape the pursuit of the empire.  In Clones, Anakin persistently pursues Amidala.

One of these movies has a character who admits to and continues to act on obsessive tendencies.  One of these movies has high levels of creepy dialogue, and a couple that is forced to spend creepy alone time together for little reason.  One of these movies has a character that over and over rebukes completely unwarranted sexual advances.  One of these movies ends with a secret marriage.

Oh, wait, all of those things happen in Clones.  In Empire, the characters try to distance themselves from each other, act in ways human adults often do, and spend very little time completely alone together.  Leia doesn't fully rebuke Han's actions, but rather starts to allow them to happen.  Empire does not end with a marriage, it ends with one of the characters (basically) being killed - see my last post for a better justification of saying Han is functionally dead.

Take a look at the first graph again - the last time Anakin and Amidala spend completely alone (the droids are at the wedding) is the scene in which Amidala admits her feelings and they kiss right before the arena.  After that they never have any other conversations about each other or spend any time alone (until super secret marriage).  It's like the whole plot was a build up to that kiss, and then once it's happened the next logical step is marriage.  They don't need to talk about it - it is that universally understood to be the outcome.

If the Empire plot is building to the kiss and admission of love right before Han is frozen, well - spoiler alert - the next thing that happens is that Han is frozen.  Looks like Darth Vader and Boba Fett ruined the next logical step of secret marriage.  Darn.  That has to be a bummer.  So that's why everyone is sad.

I think I've made my point on this one?  Hopefully.

If you're still reading, though, thanks and congrats!  I mentioned that I wrote down questions I had while watching episode II, and if you've made it through all this love story stuff you're now only lines away from reaping your reward.  Continue, and read what I think can be best described as they were by a friend commenting on the last post:  "accurate and depressing"

By the way, I cannot believe that I had this many questions about episode II.  Keep in mind, I was just watching the movie normally and coding for other things - I was not watching with an intent to find these questions - they just jump out at you.  This is the leftovers (the B side, if you will), not the focus.



- In episode I, while Amidala and Palpatine are in the senate, Palpatine points out the then Vice Chancellor as the embodiment of the main problem with the senate. He implies that the Chancellor is easily bribed and influenced by this guy, and really just kind of lays into him as a bad person. So, in the opening scenes of episode II, why is this guy still seemingly serving under Palpatine? I could see if it was a Sith ploy, but wouldn’t Amidala say something? She’s in the room.  Does she not remember?  Later, in the most contrived and manipulative tone ever, he’s the one that says ‘This is a crisis - the senate must vote the chancellor emergency powers’. This is the line that guilts Jar Jar into putting forward that motion.

- Why doesn’t Jango Fett just kill Amidala himself? I could understand if he didn’t want to be connected to it, for instance if he was going to have an alibi of being somewhere else when it happened. Nope, he’s on Coruscant, in full armor, watching it all happen. If he really wanted Amidala dead why not just crash the place with his jetpack after both Jedi leave chasing the diversion?  He's supposed to be a pretty top notch bounty hunter, right? They’d get back, Amidala would be dead, and they’d be kind of out of luck.  You know, unless he dropped a really unique poison dart that could be traced to the last place he was.

- This is covered a lot over in the RedLetterMedia reviews, but there’s such a lost opportunity for character development when Obi-Wan jumps out the window after the droid. He has just finished thoroughly feeding it to Anakin about how they’re not supposed to be launching an investigation and how Anakin should be more patient and stop rushing into things, and that Anakin is basically a short-sighted loose cannon. If Anakin jumped out the window it would be completely consistent with his character, and also consistent with Obi-Wan’s to go follow him. It would help develop both characters, instead of stunting both of them.  Obi-Wan doing it is like the good cop shooting a guy in the face while the bad cop is out getting him ice cream. Honestly, the character painted to that point of Anakin doesn’t even seem like one that would chase after Obi-Wan, but rather one that would stay with and protect Amidala (perhaps rightly so). This may seem small, but I think this is one of the largest lost opportunities of any of the movies.

- So, Jango says ‘his client’ is getting impatient. That means that someone hired Jango, who hired the shape-shifter, who used a droid. Seems like a good assassination attempt would involve a lot fewer middlemen. Outsource much?  I can't wait for the special edition where the droid hires another droid to do the job.

- It seems like there are so many better ways for a shapeshifter to kill someone. So many that I’m not going to list them. How much is that ineffective droid worth, though? And doesn’t it have a communicator? The shape-shifter is willing to shoot it out of the sky (instead of shooting Obi-Wan, who was actually a larger target), so it can’t be worth much. When things go south why not just send it higher and higher into the atmosphere? Or, say, the opposite direction?

- Anakin stops following the shapeshifter at one point to take ‘a shortcut’. A shortcut to where? If he knew where he was going in the first place, why even have a chase? How unique is the ship that the shapeshifter is flying? If he was just picking out a ship from the crowd that was fairly common it would be like jumping off a highway bridge to try to land on a that ‘unique’ white Toyota Corolla. Oops, sorry sir, wrong white Toyota Corolla.

- In the club scene, Obi-Wan uses the force to stop a death stick dealer from selling his wares. It’s not even implied that death sticks are illegal - maybe they’re like devil sticks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_sticks) , which also have an unfortunately evil sounding name. Obi-Wan actually ‘sends him home to rethink his life’. That seems pretty over the top and heavy handed from a Jedi. Is their job to impose social norms and serve as a morality patrol?  Do they do this all the time?  Is that one of the risks of living on Coruscant?  Imagine if there were Jedi just wandering around the world stopping you from doing things they didn't like.  Sounds like fun.

- The shapeshifter seemed to be planning to kill Obi-Wan with a blaster. Why, then, would she be trying to get in arms’ reach of him?  And why not kill him with a blaster earlier, when she shot down the droid?  It was actually easier than just shooting down the droid.

- In episode I, Obi-Wan and Captain Panaka seem to be the most level headed and practical characters, and also the best tacticians. Despite this, they are both left on the ship while the weakest parts of the crew head into dangerous situations. When Anakin and Amidala are leaving for Naboo, Obi-Wan and Captain Typho (at that point the two most security-minded and capable characters) look on and exchange worries while they let the two weakest characters again leave on their own.  Both express concern of what might happen to them.  Maybe, you know, tell someone who cares?

- The Jedi librarian says “if an item does not appear in our database, it does not exist”. Does that mean that the archive is no longer updated when they find or discover something new? Or do the librarians just not have object permanence?

- When Obi-Wan is looking for Camino he says “gravity is pulling all the stars in the area to this spot”. How big is the Camino system’s star? Even if we’re just talking about other stars orbiting the system that seems like it would be pretty massive (otherwise they’d be orbiting in a much different fashion).

- The younglings don’t have a new idea. Obi-Wan had said pretty much the same thing to the librarian, that maybe the archive was incomplete. If Obi-Wan believed the librarian he should have just yelled the same thing back at the kid: "if an item doe not appear in our database, it does not exist!"

- Amidala was an elected queen? Also the youngest? What credentials did she have to serve as queen? Is Naboo a matriarchy?  Do they ever have kings?  Are they required to wear all that makeup as part of the job?

- Anakin really just likes picking fights with everyone. Not a question, just true.

- Right before Anakin and Amidala kiss, Amidala gives Anakin a look that reads as ‘look, how many times do I have to tell you that no means no?’ She has said it several times already, and after he starts to kiss her, she pushes away and says ‘no’ again. Is this what Lucas thinks courtin’ should look like?

- Later, in what I dub the ‘fireside chat’, Anakin basically begs Amidala to be with him. She again rebukes his advances and tries to send him away. I’d say you have to dig to find some of this, but it’s worse than Twilight. Anakin is coming off as a super creepy, desperate stalker.  Why has she put up with this the entire movie?

- If Anakin and Amidala are trying to be covert about their whereabouts, why do they hire a fancy looking droid rickshaw to take them through the streets of a major city? Wouldn’t that raise some suspicion? They couldn’t have walked? They left Coruscant traveling as commoners, so that they wouldn't be tracked as easily.  Also, the droid pulling the rickshaw is one of the droids that was earlier shown on the tvs in the bar as part of the droid football league (yeah, you remember that now, right?). Is ‘rickshaw attendant’ the career path after you get too old to play robot football?  Or did the rickshaw droids just decide that they would be great at football in their spare time?

- Jango drops charges from his ship that visually explode, then moments later make an explosion noise. Is the idea supposed to be that you’re experiencing the sound/light speed differential, like seeing lightning before you hear thunder? In space? You know, where there’s no medium for the transmission of sound?

- First off, Jango needs a better targeting system. But, in true ‘now that the shields are back up no one shoots at us ever again’ fashion, Jango stops using his lasers the second that they are shown to be effective. Seriously. He makes several direct hits to Obi-Wan’s hull and droid, showing that any shields he has are down, and that the targeting is zeroed in. (Later, on the planet, the damage is revealed to be devastating - the hull is melted down to ship substructure - droid is totally fine though). Jango is firing upwards of a dozen shots a second, and just four shots did some pretty big damage. What to do in a situation like that? Stop firing lasers, of course - they don’t seem to be working - and prep missiles while also backing off a bit so you can’t see what’s going on. Duh. Basic space battle stuff, guys.

- The scene transition between Anakin looking for clues to find the Tusken Raiders and Obi-Wan spying on the separatists is something that has confused me every time I’ve seen this movie. You go from Anakin searching for something in a rocky desert environment to a scene where it pans down to a character (who looks like Anakin from the distance) sneaking around a rocky desert environment not unlike Tatooine. It flows in my mind that this should still be Anakin. Things zoom in and it’s Obi-Wan, and I always feel a pretty jarring disconnect even though I know it's coming.

- Dooku says he’s confident that 10,000 more systems will rally to the cause with the support of his little gang. Sure, the universe is pretty big, but it seems like a pretty easy trip from Coruscant (the core of the Republic) to a place like Tatooine, which is summed up best in Luke’s words from A New Hope: “If there’s a bright center to the universe, you’re on the planet that it’s farthest from.” It’s also the case that Dooku is talking about Republic planets defecting to the separatists, which means that there are at least 10,000 planets in the Republic. Are there 10,000 senators? In all six movies we only come across a dozen or so planets - so all the important stuff happens on something on the order of less than 0.1% of planets?  In A New Hope Tarkin says that the Emperor has dissolved the senate, and local governors will now be tasked with keeping order. How large would their jurisdiction have to be? A little hyperbole is fine, but someone really needs to be running conclusions on these numbers that they just pull out of nowhere.  If you just start saying "we just need to say a big number here, how about 20 billion?" you just quickly become Dragonball Z.

- Nute Gunray is having a conversation with Dooku in the hallway when Obi-Wan is spying on them. He asks first ‘is the queen dead yet?’ and then says ‘I’m not signing any treaty until her head is on my desk!’. Less than a minute later they’re in the conference room and Dooku casually mentions that the Trade Federation has pledged their full support. Nute Gunray and the Nemodian Pope both nod in agreement.  What changed?  Why didn't we get to say it?

- Obi-Wan, with an exceptionally small amount of effort, is able to use a tracking signal to pinpoint that Anakin is not on Naboo, but on Tatooine. Seems like if you were going on a super secret mission you’d turn that off. Also, they left Coruscant on a passenger freighter, and only picked up a random ship on Naboo - presumably just a random ship, and certainly not one that belonged to Anakin. Soooooo, what is Obi-Wan tracking exactly? Anakin himself?  Something in his bags?

- What is Dooku trying to accomplish when talking to Obi-Wan? If he is on the side of the Sith, he’s just revealed their entire hand. But...he’s not, because he’s working with the same guy he reveals. Is he actually trying to destroy the Sith? To me, this is the most confusing scene in any Star Wars movie. I watch it over and over and I have absolutely no idea what I’m supposed to be taking away from it.

- Jango kills a Jedi that is attacking Dooku. An unnamed, uncredited, non-speaking, CGI Jedi. Doesn’t count.  With all the Jedi they had named and given roles to so far how hard would it have been to have just let one of those die?  Why create a completely new character that we've never seen before and have no connection to?

- So, protocol droids and battle droids have completely interchangeable parts?  Good to know.  Seems like Chewie should have had a much easier time putting C3P0 back together in Empire - all his parts are just plug and play.

- I get that the Caminoians are great cloners, and built the clone army.  I am fully willing to take that suspension of disbelief.  I'm on board.  But...who built the ships? The firepower they are able to deliver is devastating to the Trade Federation - if the Caminoians built those ships they should be better known for engineering than for cloning.  Why do they assume that Obi-Wan is there to see the clones?  He should be there to see the ships.  Why do they even need the clones, actually?  They could have bombarded that planet from space, or wait - wait - they could have simply set up a blockade.  Maybe Amidala's ship got lucky in Phantom Menace, but I doubt that Dooku's tiny little solar sail would be able to run a blockade of star destroyers.  I guess you wouldn't want to do the same thing twice, though.

- Was Dooku actually trying to kill Yoda, or just screwing around? He knocks over the pipes or whatever, toward Anakin and Obi-Wan, which causes Yoda to exert all his energy into catching it. Dooku simply runs to his ship and leaves. Seems like all he’d have to do would be turn around, kill Yoda, then let the pipes fall on Anakin and Obi-Wan. Then he doesn’t even have to run to his ship, he’d have all the time in the world. Realistically, he could let Amidala show up, and just kill her too. Separatists win!  Jedi devastated!  Yay!

- Mace, Yoda, and Obi-Wan discuss whether or not Dooku was telling the truth and a Sith is in control of the senate. Seems like all you’d have to do is start at the top (Palpatine) and start asking people to come in for a random blood test. Say there’s a virus going around or something. Do a midicholorian count and boom, there’s your Sith.

- Looking back, there’s more deaths, but I don’t know if there’s any blood. Anakin slaughters tons of Geonosions, but they just kind of fall apart like play doh. When he gets his hand cut off there’s just a smoldering stump. Obi-Wan gets cut up, but gashes just appear. The queen’s handmaiden dies, in an explosion. Shmi has cuts on her face, but just kind of dies of exhaustion. Tusken Raiders just kind of fall apart like there’s nothing in their suits.  In Empire there's not really blood either, to be fair, but somehow it just feels different.

- Dooku is also able to make it from Geonosis to Coruscant on a solar sail, but Obi-Wan is out of transmitter range from Geonosis to Coruscant (the first time this has ever been brought up as a problem).  How far out is Geonosis, then?  It seems like it would be out on the outer rim if the separatists wanted to stay hidden, so how long of a trip does Dooku actually take?  Ships in the star wars universe that are the size of Dooku's ship do not tend to have hyperdrive.  It's why Obi-Wan and Han are confused to find tie fighters out in the middle of nowhere in A New Hope.  Hyperdrives take up entire rooms (as is shown in the Naboo ship in Phantom Menace).  If it was possible to get from Geonosis to Coruscant at sublight speeds, and Naboo is closer to Coruscant than Geonosis, then why didn't Qui-Gon just take them back to Coruscant at sublight speeds in Phantom Menace?  They might not have had rations, but with 20,000 credits it seems like they could have picked some of those up on the way (easier than replacing the hyperdrive).  Tell me where Dooku's rations are on his tiny ship, by the way.  Even if we just give in and say that Dooku's ship had hyperdrive, then why would be need the solar sail?  Why would he not be jumping to hyperdrive the second he was out of atmosphere?  He already has no-solar sail, sublight thrusters to get off the planet, so the solar sail is either for travel between systems (in which case a hyperdrive would be redundant) or is for sublight short distances (in which case the thrusters are redundant.  Seems like someone just read about solar sails and said "woooooooooow, we should have one of those in our movie!"


One other thing came to me about episode I while I was watching all the magic use of communicators in episode II:

In episode I, what is being sent to Obi-Wan to analyze about Anakin's blood sample?  I've never thought about it before, but if Qui-Gon uses his device to take a sample of blood, how does it play out after that? What data could be sent that wasn’t analyzed before transmission?  Think about it.  Qui-Gon's device is doing something to the blood to produce digital information about it.  That information is then transmitted.  There is no teleportation at all in the Star Wars universe, so the blood itself is not being sent.  The only thing that Obi-Wan can receive is information that Qui-Gon sent to him.  Obi-Wan can only do transformations or math to that data, he can't introduce anything new.  He also doesn't have any special Jedi computer with him, as the ship they traveled in was destroyed early in the movie.  If he was carrying something in his robes that could analyze midichlorians it stands to reason that Qui-Gon would also have one.  He just has a regular ship computer - his communicator/tricorder is the same as Qui-Gon's, so anything he can do Qui-Gon could have done in the field.  Let's go back to it, though - in order for Obi-Wan to tell Qui-Gon something about midichlorians, Qui-Gon's device would have had to measure midicholorians.  Can he not interpret data from his device without funneling it through a computer?  It would be like having a calculator that can do any math you want, but that doesn't have a screen.

Ugh, end nerd rant.